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Charged off Student Stafford Loan???




I am having a continuing problem with a set of loans from a local

credit union. I live in Colorado. The loans started off as Subsidized

Stafford Student Loans for the 1994-1996 school years. The credit

union apparently made some sort of violations when filing for the

interest with the Department of Education. Around December 2000 the

credit union was removed from the Federal Family Education Loan

Program(FFELP) and the Guarantor of the student loans ended the

insurance on them.



I have been repeatedly told that at that point the loans were no longer

Federal student loans. They became private bank loans. I have been

refused assistance from the Department of Education Ombudsman and I am

unable to consolidate the loans with the rest of my student loans.



In 1998 I withdrew from Full-Time school and the grace period expired;

the loans should have been in repayment at that time. I later

continued half-time attendance and graduated in May 2001. I should have

immediately entered into repayment after graduation. After graduation

I should have had two deferments for Half-Time attendance. I was not

in financial condition to pay on the loans until late 2004.



I was considerably delinquent with the loans and did not make a payment

until April 2004. At this time I met with the credit union's loan

officer and agreed to make a single $70 monthly payment to service all

the loans. This was all I could afford to pay and I was told that this

payment would be enough to avoid being sent to collection. In this

first meeting with the loan officer I noticed that the interest on

these loans was considerably higher than the interest on my other

Stafford loans. I asked about the interest rates at this time and was

told that the since the loans were "no longer student loans" that the

interest rate was fixed rather than the variable rate specified in the

Promissory Notes. The variable rate that should have been charged at

that time was 4.22% and I was being charged 8.25% on two of the loans

and 8.92% on the other two. The 8.92% actually exceeded the specified

cap on the variable rate.



In early May of 2004 I made a second $70 payment and deposited funds

into checking for the June payment. At the end of May the credit union

closed my checking account and applied all funds from there to the loan

balances. I was never contacted by the credit union that this would

happen or that it did happen. I first became aware it happened when my

Discover Card e-payment had bounced in early June 2004. I went in to

the credit union to discuss the matter with the loan officer.



I again voiced my concerns about the interest rates in the June

meeting. I was told that the $70 payment was not covering the monthly

finance charges("negative amortizing") and this was the reason my funds

were seized. I am positive that if the specified variable rate was

used that the $70 payment would have covered the finance charges and

paid on the principal too. At this time the loan officer agreed that

the funds seized would be considered to be my June payment and I would

not pay again until July.



I made the July 2004 payment in person at the credit union early that

month. I received a statement on July 14, 2004 showing the loans were

charged off on June 8,2004. This account statement was the first I

ever recieved showing the total accrued finance charges. I realized

these finance charges were considerably higher than they should have

been based on the variable interest rates and interest not being

charged while in school. I was never given any statement showing

collection costs or late fees were being charged to the account.



I again met with the loan officer on July 15, 2004. In this meeting I

asked to be supplied with copies of the Promissory Notes. I also asked

for a history of the account showing month-by-month finance charges.

The loan officer would not supply me with a copy of the Promissory Note

and stated that the Credit Union did not possess any copies. I was

also told at this point that it was impossible to obtain a monthly

history of the finance charges since the credit union's computer record

system had been changed over the previous month. The Loan officer did

supply me with a photo copy of all the documents that they had in the

loan file.



I was told at this meeting that the charge off was "internal" and as

long as I continued to make the $70 payment that it would not be

reported to the Credit Bureaus. I have written documentation of this

verbal agreement.



At this point I began researching and documenting the variable interest

rates of Stafford Loans. I contacted the Department of Education at

and was informed the loans were not student loans and the Department of

Education was no longer involved with the matter. I was told the

credit union was removed from the Federal Family Education Loan Program

for reporting violations in 2000.



On July 20, 2004 I wrote the credit union by certified mail requesting

copies of the Promissory Notes; a complete record of all periods of

deferment, forbearance, and repayment; the current status of the

accounts; and a complete history of the finance charges on the loan. I

called to confirm that the letter had been recieved and was told that

the Loan Officer I had met with previously was no longer working there.



I waited seven weeks for a response before writing again to the credit

union. This time I stated that I believed the interest rates used for

the loans were incorrect and that the totals for the finance charges

were calculated incorrectly. I again requested the same information as

in the previous letter. I did not receive any response to these

letters until November 9, 2004.



I finally received a letter from the credit union. This letter

included copies of the Promissory Notes, but did not include a history

of the accounts. The letter stated that further research would be

done on the finance charges, but no account history would be available.



I waited two more months for the additional information to be sent to

me. I contacted the National Credit Union Association for assistance

on January 10, 2005. The credit union manager responded to this

complaint on February 10, 2005 with a letter contending that the fixed

interest rates were correct. Documents actually showing the variable

nature of the interest rates were included with the letter. No

itemized statement was included with this response.



After an additional letter to the NCUA, I received a decision on April

25, 2005 that there were discrepancies with the way interest charges

were calculated. Their decision was that the credit union must supply

an itemized statement and adjust the finance charges that were applied

to the accounts. The decision stated that the response from the credit

union should be made "shortly" but it was left open ended.



After waiting one month, I went to the credit union to check on the

status of their response. I was told that they needed more time to

calculate the interest charge adjustment since their accountant had

open heart surgery. At this time they brought up the subject of

settling the charge off. The Manager also stated that I was "not

legally obligated" to pay the loans.



This last week I received copies of my credit reports. I made a verbal

agreement with the credit union that making a $70 payment monthly would

prevent the charge offs from being reported to the credit bureaus. I

was very upset to discover that the charge offs were reported to

Equifax in September 2004. I made every single $70 monthly payment

for over a year. I have written proof of the agreement in three

separate documents.



I have still not received a written response from the credit union

regarding the NCUA decision two months after the decision was made.



During this same period of time I have rehabilitated two other student

loans and applied for a consolidation loan. I have done my absolute

best to fix my financial situation and these loans are the only place

where I have made no real progress. When applying for the

consolidation loan I was informed that the credit union loans could

never be consolidated with the other student loans since they are not

insured by a guarantor.



I am very fed up with the situation. I have several questions:



Was it legal for the credit union to remove all the funds from my

savings and checking accounts without a judgment or any court

involvement?



I don't trust the people involved here. It seems very strange that the

credit union Manager would suggest that I don't have to pay them. Are

they trying to trick me somehow? Is it possibly true that I am not

legally obligated to pay them? Is this because of the statute of

limitations?



What should I do about the charge offs on my credit report? I met my

end of the agreement but they reported it anyway without telling me.

There is also an extra account listed on the credit report that

shouldn't be there. I understand that a charge off stays on a credit

report seven years from the time I was late or the late payment went

into collection, not from the last time I made a payment on the

account. How would I find out when this date is exactly?



They suggested settling with them. How bad are settled charge offs and

how long would they stay on the credit report? What might a reasonable

settlement offer be?
Probably was, but read your account agreement to be sure.

Many account agreements say the accountholder grants the

bank/CU the right of "set-off", meaning they can unilaterally

use your deposit accounts to pay off any loans you have with

them. I know a number of people who will not keep deposit

accounts and loans at the same bank for that reason.

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