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someone posted about how no matter how disorganized they were,, they always

payed their bills on time...This is an area that Dh and I have had stress

over...Especially since we move dinto this house...Seems like we have been

so busy,, and cluttered that we always manage to forget something...We

always have the money to pay the bill we just manage to overlook one or

misplace one...I know this is going to really mess up our credit...



So, I would like to know some you your tricks ...by this i mean..does anyone

have a specific way of organizing your household bills so that you alway

spay them on time..Do you have a certain organizational box yu put them

in...yadda yadda yadda..I am open to ideas..each time i figure out what

works for me..i get messed up again..so i would ove to hear some new

ideas...
_I have tried various methods. I, too, used to be late a lot. The first

"successful" thing I tried was putting bills in a box when I brought

them from the mailbox. I paid bills twice a month (paydays). I kept a

notebook listing all bills I expected to pay during the month, along

with the due date.



Finally got good enough at it (and paid off enough little bills) that

I now go through mail when I bring it in. Junk mail gets trashed

immediately. (Just started doing this about 3 weeks ago, so I do have

a backlog I have been going through - pile is much lower today.) The

bills are taken from the envelope, paper-clipped to the return

envelope, and put in a file folder on my desk. I still keep the

notebook with expected bills for the month along with due dates. On

payday, I write the checks, put bill and check in envelope, and put

everything in the mailbox. No more late bills. I also check off the

paid bill in my notebook, listing date and amount paid.





There may be simpler ways or more efficient ways, but this method has

worked very well for me, and I am quite proud of myself that I have

overcome the "late bill" syndrome.





I am also on a quest to get out of debt. I have come a long way in

that regard over the past year. If I continue on my plan, I should be

debt-free, except for the house, this time next year. I think the book

(Take Time for Yourself) encourages this, too



_Besides my email there are 2 places I always visit when I'm online - here &

Cheapskate Monthly.



The Cheapskate Monthly site is by the author of the Cheapskate books (and a

bunch of others) - Mary Hunt. There are several free things folks might

find useful there. But the most important aspect, I find, is the Message

Boards - which require a subscription.





The folks there are just as friendly and non-judgmental as the folks here.

Some are folks like me - the only continuing debts I have are the house &

car but money just seems to flow through my hands like water sometimes.

There are also folks there with huge amounts of debt & creditors calling

almost daily.





Most of the folks that post seem to be Christian & you'll frequently see a

responder suggest that a poster ask for God's help. But I've never seen

anyone being pushy about it.





Well, this is long (as usual with me). I just wanted to say that I really

liked the site & have gotten some good ideas from it. If you're trying to

become debt-free or just get a better handle on your money, it's a very

useful friendly site.





http://www.cheapskatemonthly.com



_ I have the luxury of a desk these days. (Well, it's

really a door sitting on two two-drawer filing cabinets, but

it serves just fine as a desk.) So I can sit down at my

desk and sort the mail quickly each day.



I have a desk thing - with trays - it is smoke-colored

plastic and snaps together. I bought it at an Office Depot

(similar to Staples or Office Max).





It has a folder in each tray: they are:





PENDING - stuff I have to keep until something happens

and then I can throw it away. Like: we are due a rebate

check. I keep the copy there, and toss it when we get the

check.





FILING - stuff to be filed. I generally keep up with the

filing.





TO-DO - stuff I should do (but never really do) I don't

put bills here, because I know this is kind of like the

Bermuda Triangle: once items get into the "to-do" folder,

they are never seen again!





COUPONS - coupons





INBOX - where the sorted mail, such as bills, goes. Then

I pay the bills - more or less as they come in.





There have been times when I just paid bills twice a

month: accumulated them, then paid several.





I use Quicken to keep track of finances, and I recently

started downloading transactions from the bank so I no

longer have to enter the charges in Quicken myself - very

nice. I'm going to find out how to pay some bills online

too. But I've not done that yet.





Missk, I'm not working, I have time to do things in a more

or less systematic manner these days.





The only really useful advice I can think of is that

office-supply stores, IMHO, have much better

office-organizing type of stuff than more consumer-oriented

stores. Much more useful stuff.





And it's not un-decorative: my tray-organizer thing is

translucent smoke-colore plastic as is my Rolodex. They're

attractive.





_Our bank has a free service where you can pay your bills by phone. (They

also have an online service, but it is pretty cumbersome) One of the

features allows you to specify due dates. I now sit down every Saturday

morning and get my chequebook up to date (I use Interac instead of

cheques for most things, don't carry my chequebook in my purse, and

never write stuff down! Instead of fretting over it, I decided to be

realistic and just take it off the phone once a week). Once I have done

that, I take all the bills and pay them over the phone, paying them

about 4 days in advance of the due date.



_I don't think I am doing anything novel. I had read quite a few books

on reducing debt and controlling spending, but I wasn't really moved

to change my ways until I heard Dave Ramsey on the radio. I used to

hear him during my drive home from work - found him quite by accident

one evening when I was bored with my usual station. (I am one of those

weirdos who believes such accidents occur because we are ready for

them - when the student is ready, the teacher appears.) Unfortunately,

the station changed his air-time. He is now on from midnight to 5am on

one station, and from noon to 3pm on another. One is during my sleep

time, the other during my work hours. Check his web site,

http://www.financialpeace.com , to see if he airs in your area.



As a result of liking his advice, I finally bought his book, Financial

Peace: Restoring Financial Hope to You and Your Family. I am using his

snowball method (also put forth by other advisors whose books I have

read) of debt reduction. I started having the credit union deduct a

small amount from my paycheck to start my crisis savings. For me, if I

don't see it and don't have easy access to it, it is far less tempting

to use the money. I have cut back in many areas (eating out, new

clothes, books - my weakness, magazines, etc.) in order to put extra

money on credit cards.





I have also used a shareware program - No Bills! Credit Card

Eliminator, download at

http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcod...

to figure out the quickest way to pay off the debts, while staying

within my budget. The program has been worth the $30 to me.





I don't completely follow Ramsey's advice, however. By using the No

Bills software, I found that I could actually pay them off faster and

pay less total interest by paying more than the minimum on *all* the

bills. It just took some fiddling with the figures to find the

quickest way for me. When one is paid off, the amount being paid on

the "gone" bill is then applied to the others. I decided a couple of

year of sacrificing and pinching was worth the possibility of being

almost debt-free. It truly has taken a load off already. And no, I

don't go hungry, and I do indulge once in a while. But I have stuck to

my plan pretty well thus far. I have considered online bill paying,

but sort of in line with Ramsey's philosophy, the hands-on approach

has kept me reminded of what I had done with my financial life and put

the focus on the need for me to stay in control. Once the debt is

conquered, maybe I will go online for the regular monthly expenses.





Now, what does this have to do with clutter? For me, getting behind on

bills, forgetting to pay them, losing them in the mess, etc., is all a

part of living with clutter. Taking control of that one area of my

life has made a big difference, but I haven't generalized that

organization to my housekeeping. l felt totally overwhelmed by the

mess





Then, guess what. Through a serendipitous "accident," I found this NG

(thanks, Melodi in VA). Who knows? Maybe this NG will have the "Dave

Ramsey" effect on my way of keeping house. I certainly hope so.





Bills, cleaning, etc. -- a big part of my problem, I am beginning to

realize, is that I have the misguided notion that if I get it all

done, it should stay that way without my having to do anything. As

someone said here, some maintenance is necessary. That has been a

stumbling block in the past for me. So many of the posts here have

been helpful to me, not only in providing information, but just in

helping me to see that even the little things finally add up.





Gosh, just looked back to see if this was fairly clear and saw how

long it was. Sorry for being so long-winded!

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